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Wotton Needs A Car Park Not More Houses

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BobsBoy47   Apr 8th 2016 20:11

Without addressing the 'having to have houses to get the car park' problem which presumably wouldn't apply to a wholly owned Council project, it might make sense to make the Outer (behind the Fire Station) car park 'all day + free 30mins' with 'smart' ticket machines. Chipping and Coop 'Shoppers' car parks max 3 hours with 1st half hour free, other 2.5 hours 'pay by hours required'. Rebate those fees to customers spending £x in Tesco, Coop or wherever else can handle the incentive. It's not rocket science and works elsewhere...

Most folk and tourists are used to paying for parking. Contactless cards and pay by phone are getting more common. How much is the cost in fuel to get to Yate/Dursley/Stroud?

Pay car parks do need enforcement/cash removal/ticket replenishment which these days is an outsourced service anyway. A degree of security/deterrent is maintained by human presence.

Balancing cost effective contracts and modest fees the council would get revenue from parking for occasional maintenance.

Shoppers who only need a few items can either park free in Long Street or half an hour in the Chipping to keep the flow moving.

Perhaps some order in this shoppers/visitor flow would encourage new businesses if the council business taxes were pitched at the right level to be economic. It would be nice to see the town buzzing again.

Old Town will still be a traffic 'bottleneck' but that's another story.

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WilloWisp   Apr 9th 2016 17:21

It is timely and informative that the Town Council have recently published the Community Plan Update 2016. [external link]

[BobsBoy47]
Those are very valid points, regarding the non-existence of effective management of the parking stock. However, to quote from the plan “Discussions on parking times and charging have been held with SDC who manage the Chipping Car park but, to date - in the absence of any local consensus - no changes have been made. “

However, that hides the fact that the Town Council agreed in principle to change a single row of long stay parking in the Chipping from Long Stay to Short Stay. Over the subsequent 12 months SDC went through the motions of consulting and legal work in preparation for the change, only for the Town council to capitulate at the eleventh hour. A decision not based on evidence and seen as by all as petty minded party politics, at least on that occasion it was not put to a secret ballot.

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“The lack of action by both the Council and the majority of traders has brought us to the situation we're in today. “

To quote from the Community Plan "car ownership has grown continuously with no matching growth in parking spaces" it goes on say that there is an "acute lack of parking for cars".
"The parking action plan recognised that inadequate parking provision was a constraint to achieving many of the Community Plan’s desired outcomes and sought improvements."
"Wotton’s parking problems were confirmed in a car parking survey carried out for SDC in 2011" this is re-confirmation of the work done in the Market Town Studies of 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006 
The residents of the town, when questioned identified, "the need for more parking in the town - although there was no appetite to pay for such a facility either through increasing the precept or introducing parking charges;"

Further the PRIORITIES FOR ACTION in the plan are to "provide more parking in the town at no extra cost to residents"

So, frankly, to suggest that the majority of the Traders are responsible for the current situation leaves me speechless.

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bladerunner   Apr 9th 2016 18:02

Well, that's my opinion, from what I've seen and heard, so if it leaves you speechless, so be it.

Look, I know who you are - I saw your original post elsewhere - and you could never be accused of complacency - or being speechless! grin

Quite seriously though, as a trader in Wotton, what would be your ideal solution to this thorny issue? Do you honestly believe that the new car park would somehow magic in more visitors to the town without a lot of promotion and/or new destinations?

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WilloWisp   Apr 9th 2016 20:08

I am looking from this from the perspective of the Community Plan - a vision stretching decades into the future. How will the future Town be best served by the community's action (or lack of it) today?

Your opinion, like everyone else, based on your past experience, which is OK by me. But whether it is in best interests of the Town in the decades to come is questionable.

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InsaneGiraffe   Apr 21st 2016 20:03

There is something in all this that strikes me as a bit of a contradiction.

The people who object to the car park seem to want to keep Wotton hidden behind the hillside, and building into those fields will spoil that. Yet there is a desire to want to attract more people to the town. Seems like a bit of a contradiction to keep Wotton small and hidden yet attract people here.

But to be honest, as someone who has lived all of my life so far in Wotton, I don't shop in many of the shops myself. Co-op, health food shop, Thomas's. It's mainly those 3. And even then, it's not every day. The rest of the time I either shop online or buy things in other shops when in other towns. I think that's probably true of a lot of people these days, so a small town like this is going to struggle.

I think that a lot of the reason Wotton's shops are struggling is because of the size of the town. If Wotton insists on remaining so tiny, maybe it's just going to struggle from here on out.

If we want to live in a tiny town wit only 5,000 people, maybe we need to face facts that this means living somewhere that struggles.

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WilloWisp   Apr 22nd 2016 20:19

I agree with those sentiments, lets face it they reflect the global reality. The choice, however, is with the people of the Town. Decisions made in the coming weeks will set out the future for many decades to come. But, just like the families and community of Port Talbot, leaving matters to the whims of market forces may prove a little short sighted.

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Chandrasekar   May 7th 2016 06:47

I've taken my eye off the ball with this story. What's due to happen next? Did anything get approved or declined or anything?

Thanx in advance.

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bladerunner   May 11th 2016 10:36

Hi Chand, you'll need to look on Facebook to see what is going on with
the 'opposition' and it's on a closed group at present - for obvious
reasons given the abuse flying around.

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